Subject:               Re: Recent Message         Date:               Thu, 04 Nov 1999 19:50:20 -0500        From:               Conrad Hubbard <conradhubbard@surfree.com>     Reply-To:               email@conradhubbard.com  Organization:               www.ConradHubbard.com          To:               Turner Stephenson <turners@coastalnet.com>   References:               1 Dear Mr. Stephenson, Attorney, I called the number you listed for the Superior Court. It would appear that this is the court system of Halifax County. The North Carolina DMV already informed me that the actual administration of the original citation was a matter for the Halifax County Courthouse, and the number you listed below would seem to validate that claim on their behalf. Therefore, unless you are telling me that this is a State run court rather than a county court and that it simply happens to be found within the borders of Halifax County, you are not telling me the truth for some reason or other. Your county may or may not have any jurisdiction over motor vehicle laws, but it would appear that it is your county legal system that was to handle the payment of the traffic violation, and that they misplaced it. If you are asserting that your legal system never, ever, under any circumstances, has ever made any mistakes whatsoever... well, congratulations. You know that is not true however, and in this case your system has made a mistake. You may have a greater grasp of the legal implications of everything here, but you do not appear to have the passion of someone who has legitimately been damaged by "the system" and I assure you that I will continue to pursue this matter in every legal fashion that I can until Halifax County clears my name and admits their mistake and gives me the money back that I have had to send a Second Time in order to make sure that this matter is resolved quickly enough that my Georgia state license is not cancelled due to some incompetent bureaucratic oversights on your county and state's parts. I am greatly concerned that if you can do this once, that you will simply continue to do it again in another ten years, and I feel very sorry for what must be countless other poor souls who have suffered similar bureaucratic abuse. I am sure that the lady who answered the phone at your Superior Court and asked me if I had a receipt to prove that I had paid this ticket could not possibly have kept a straight face. Who keeps stuff like that ten years? Apparently not even your county and state governments. Besides she even told me that they would not have sent me a receipt anyway, so why exactly would she ask. As payment is in money order form or cash only, that means that neither I nor anyone your court has systematically screwed will ever be able to produce a receipt to prove their case. How convenient, especially since it is actually the burden of proof for the state, not their helpless victims, apparently except in the backwaters of North Carolina. I thank you for answering my email, but it would seem that you did so more out of a concern for keeping others from having to do their jobs than any effort to actually help me. Your request to refrain from contacting Halifax county employees cannot be met when I still need their help in ironing out the problems that they have caused. In fact, I have been busily forwarding their addresses to my friends and associates in the hopes that if enough people help me out you will have to act in the fashion that is just and proper. My list of contacted people may have been a bit broad, but that stems from a lack of knowlege of who the proper people to actually do something about it rather than pass me around like a bit of red tape paper might be. If you have any desire to aid in the process, it would be greatly appreciated. I ask again, is the Superior Court simply a structure residing within Halifax County that is in no way a part of your county government or is you assertion that Halifax County is not involved false? Furthermore, as would any honest person, I resent your "if you paid your ticket off" statement. You do not know me sir, and you have no reason to try to call me a liar, excepting I suppose a general lack of respect for normal people. Turner Stephenson wrote: > Dear Mr. Hubbard: > >     I am the attorney for Halifax County, North Carolina and I have > received a copy of your recent e-mail regarding a 10 year old ticket in > Halifax County.  Please be advised that you need to address your > concerns with the North Carolina Department of Motor Vehicles in > Raleigh, NC.  Halifax County does not have any jurisdiction over motor > vehicle laws, citations issued by the NC Highway Patrol or DMV > Enforcement Officers, your concerns are with State officials, not > Halifax County officials. >     You may wish to start your inquiry by contacting the office of the > Clerk of Superior Court at 252-583-5061.  If you paid your ticket off it > would have been handled throught that office. >     Please refrain from contacting employees or Halifax County regarding > this matter. > >                                                                 Turner > Stephenson >                                                                 Halifax > County Attorney -- Conrad Hubbard Copyright © Conrad Hubbard  Back to The Traffic Citation of Christ