Arguing With The Player January 17, 2009
Posted by Conrad Hubbard in : The Chip , trackbackTonight I was at a local neighborhood bar, and I got into one of my “moralistic” arguments with somebody. This guy came in that I had briefly talked to some other time, but this time I watched him “in action” and ended up in a conversation afterwards. Essentially, when he came in, there were three girls at a table and he started aggressively hitting on them. That only bothered me in the sense that at least one of them seemed pretty uncomfortable with his onslaught. I tried to passively interject myself, on their behalf, a couple of times, but I was concerned that more testosterone might only make them feel more uncomfortable than they already were.
Anyway, the three of them took off pretty shortly after this guy started hitting on them. Deprived of any female targets outside of the bar staff, he started talking to guys at the bar. Of course that included me. He started bragging about his female conquests. I kept quiet at first, but as the bragging went on I eventually spoke up. Since he loudly proclaimed that he had a regular girlfriend, I pointed out that his attempts to hit on girls in the bar were inappropriate. A fairly ridiculous conversation followed, ranging from the Biblical suggestions of how morals should work to the natural logic of the situation.
What is the deal with people who pretend some sense of partnership with their mate, and then betray that by pursuing other partners? Worse, what about those who betray multiple people, pretending that each of them is an exclusive mate?
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Whats the deal with you talking like you have such high morals? You may be “good” but your set of morals are far from perfect. I suspect you have hit on women even while married. I suspect you are the kind of man who would have sex with whatever woman you could, even if it meant ruining other peoples’ lives. You are in no position to take the high ground when it comes to morals, and I, for one, think you should just stop preaching and start looking inward to see what kind of person you really are.
Hello “anonymous” poster. You either know me, in which case you know I don’t cheat on my significant other, or you don’t know me, in which case you don’t know what you are talking about. I didn’t claim to be a perfect being, but me working on my own issues is no reason to avoid talking to other people about things they might be doing wrong. If that was the way the world worked, then nobody could talk about making things better. I sure hope that folks with constructive help are there for me, when the time is right, even if they are not sinless angels.
I never said you “cheated” on your significant other (at least not with the act of sex – maybe just in your heart), all I said was that I suspected you to be the type of person who, at the very least, be the kind of person who would do the things I mentioned. I never claimed to be any angel or devil, nor sinless in any way, but I am sure your own heart tells you what things you have done evil to others, and that is the point I am trying to make.
I have read your blog for quite some time now, and I have been silent until now, because, well I see your “moralistic” arguments as being somewhat hypocritical. Also, why do you think your moral grounds are the standard to which everyone else is judged. In the situation you described, maybe the guy’s girlfriend is perfectly fine with him hitting on other women. Maybe she is bi-sexual and wants him to bring someone else home. Maybe he was raised differently than you with your so-called morals… and then again, maybe he was raised the same and chooses to interpret them differently. Maybe your own set of morals is flawed, which I think is the case, and that your life is a waste of effort.
You have been married twice right? And twice you had your wife leave you to go to another man, right? I do believe that you must have done something wrong in the past for such sorrow to befall you, and I can only hope that you feel (at least) half the pain you have caused others in your time on this planet.
You should keep your own demons to yourself, no one wants to hear them out loud, nor read them in this pathetic form of a blog/diary. Deal with your own evils on your own time, and stop broadcasting them to the world. The people you think of your friends only amuse themselves watching you in your stupor of ignorance and apathy, and I for one will continue to sit back and watch you flounder in your life, and I can only hope that you continue to relish in the sorrow that befalls you.
… and I cant wait to see you again, to see that look of loss in the back of your eyes and know… KNOW that you are miserable in your own pathetic excuse of a life.
Ah, hello, “anonymous” poster. It seems like we have chosen different paths. I may have strayed from mine on occasion, sometimes with the encouragement of others, but I am still following it. Good luck with your demons, too.